I received a letter in the mail today regarding the Proposed Overlay. I was shocked at the comparison of our homes to $80 million dollar Van Gogh’s and an innuendo that without an overlay we will have people living in our neighborhood that drive Harley motorcycles with no mufflers.
Pro NSO groups are pitting neighbor against neighbor. I have a great love for the people in our neighborhood. I didn’t lose friends and I didn’t have my kids ask me why people all of a sudden won’t talk to us during the presidential election, but its happened now regarding the overlay.
My husband and I talked to a member of the Dallas City Council today. They stated clearly that a two-story home could NOT be built with the restrictions on this proposed overlay. An attic addition with a pitched roof is about the best that you can do in regards to expanding up. The average 2-story home is 20 ft tall without the roof.
An NSO will not protect you from insensitive neighbors; it will not protect you from an ugly unsightly house because it does not regulate style.
Okay. Let me go through this step by step.
ReplyDeleteFirst, go here:
http://www.dallascityhall.com/development_services/pdf/nso_greenland.pdf
This is the Greenland Hills NSO. The actual NSO ordinance for that neighborhood. On page two, Section 2, paragraph 4, it says; "The height of the structure may not exceed the height plane, which is 20 feet at the front building line."
That is the exact same height plane requirement in the proposed UT NSO.
Now, go here:
http://utnsoyes.blogspot.com/
and look at the house in that first picture. That house is in the Greenland Hills NSO. It was built between late July 2007 and September 2008. The NSO went into effect in March 2007. So, this is proof that a two storey house can be built within the height plane, an as you can see, they didn't have to push the second floor further back on the structure. The front line of the second floor is flush with the first floor. And it is a +3400 sf home.
So now you have proof that what you're saying is wrong.
No Mr. Riley it states that the midline of the roof cannot be over 20' not the structure before the roof. Maybe Mr. "I don't own a home in University Terrace" Riley you need to look a little closer. Even the city won't give me a definitive answer. Would you like me to forward the Power Point Presentation made for the Vote that clearly shows it can't be done.
ReplyDeleteDid you not see the house? Did you not see that it has a second storey? You can look at the deed transfer date. The builder bought the property and built that house after the NSO went into effect. It's a real house in a real NSO and it is conforming.
ReplyDeleteBut you're going to deny the reality that this house exists because you have a Power Point Presentation?
According to the City of Dallas and their City Council I have different information. Do you have specific quotes and have you talked to the CPC, the City Council. Also the picture of that house is a story and a half - not a true two-story. There is a difference. Also I thought you were protecting the character of the neighborhood. A 1.5 story Tudor doesn't match this neighbhorhood.
ReplyDeleteMr. Riley, I suggest you research your architecture a little more closely. That is a 1.5 story not a 2 story. I know it looks like a 2 story - but its not.
You're missing my point. If you get in your car and drive over to Kenwood, you can see a real house built to conform to the Greenland Hills NSO, an SO that is more restrictive that the one being proposed for UT. I'm not talking about conversations and Power Point Presentations. I'm talking about bricks and mortar and real tangible things you can see and touch.
ReplyDeleteYou can live in an information bubble and cling to your phone calls and your computer and your "access", or you can get out of your house and see what's really going on with redevelopment in Dallas.
Dear Mr. Riley - it is amazing that you are the only person who continually tries to refute everything I say. No where up above did I discuss redevelopment. No where did I discuss anything but the fact that a CITY EMPLOYEE - one in charge of working on this NSO and A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER both said a true two story home could NOT be built.
ReplyDeleteKeep to the subject. Keep it honest, please stop harassing me with ridiculous notions, unfounded arguments and things completely off subject.
This is a place to openly discuss why we don't want an overlay and you keep throwing in conjecture, false statements and misinformation. You want propaganda, please use your own site. I will be taking your statements to the city so they know what PRO NSO people are telling and spreading. MISINFORMATION.
Last post. Promise.
ReplyDeleteYou have finally made it clear that you don't want opposing opinion, you just want lockstep agreement. You said it:
"This is a place to openly discuss why we don't want an overlay".
That doesn't leave any room for people to openly discuss why we WANT an overlay, now, does it?
Well, you guys knock yourselves out patting each other on the back over here.
Bye now...
So what the rest of us doesn't count just you and only you?
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